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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:10:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [ArM Saga] Exploring a Cave
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On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:05 AM, Dahlene,William wrote:
> No Problem.
>
> And I just realized Rurik wont be able to see in the dark to get
> back to the rope.
True, but the rope should be against the wall, and a hand against the
wall then gets there. It's the standard way to move in the dark.
And there's light above, which is where it would be most needed.
Not that he's looking to leave. Just noting that if you're used to
moving in the dark, it's not hard.
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On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:55:31PM +0200, demerphq wrote:
> On 9/4/07, Dave Mitchell <davem@iabyn.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:46:28PM +0200, demerphq wrote:
> > > Actually i built perl with the AC stuff disabled and the benchmark I
> >
> > Um, what does AC stand for?
>
> Sorry. AC is abbreviation for Aho Corasick, which is more or less the
> algorithm that the code in find_byclass() that you profiled
> implements.
>
> You can disable it by finding a line regcomp.c that says
>
> #define TRIE_STCLASS
>
> and commenting it out, or whatever. You can also disable the tri
> optimisation outright by modifying on of the defines at the top of
> regcomp.h
This is odd - I've just had another look at this 20% slowdown thing, and
I can no longer see any noticeable difference between the 5.8.8 and bleed
times of this benchmark (based on the 'user' value of the UNIX 'time'
output).
This is unthreaded, optimised 5.8.8, and bleed from 25 Sept.
So either:
something's changed recently in bleed that's made the problem go away,
or the 20% was just noise and varies randomly from build to build
(wouldn't be the first time...),
or I've made a mistake somewhere.
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